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Superdave
15-03-2005, 03:28 AM
How do you guys go about these triplets, and 16ths?

I really dig that fill of 16th percussive notes, I think in the second chorus. How do you usually go about doing that? I double thumb the A, pluck the D, then slap the E.

Then the fill leading into the chorus out of the bridge/reintro?

Lex
15-03-2005, 04:54 AM
i slap the A string (muted), pop the G string (muted), then double slap the E string (playing the B, then BFlat)...

four hits in succession...

Big T
15-03-2005, 11:54 AM
I'm not sure which part you're talking about, the triplet part. the one in the end choruses where he fills a bit more in? I usually doublethump and pop it, not wooten doublethumping but just two quick slaps and a pop. gets more power in.

but from what lex here's explaining, maybe you're talking about another part?

Lex
16-03-2005, 03:20 AM
hey guys... i am talking about the fill at 2:17... Jay's just sung the word "twisting"...

mmmm, i love that fill.

Lex

Big T
16-03-2005, 11:11 AM
actually, that varies a lot for me. sometimes I pop the D and triple slap the E string (slap-mute-slap). I also tend to doubleslap the E, mutepop the D and then slap the E string again. or maybe something entirely different again.

Alfred Jazz Punker
17-03-2005, 12:18 AM
I never wondered myself how I do it...

I think it sounds like sh.... (the way I do it)... But I have changed so much the b-lines of Jamiroquai that I ended up always playing my own song.... he he he

Viktor
11-06-2005, 05:22 PM
I duble slap the A string...than pop the D string and slap the A string again...

Leo
14-06-2005, 10:29 AM
I prefer to do them with mutted / played harmonics on the 12th fret, 2 on G, 1 on D, 1 on A and a slide on E... that's another way, surely easier... :cheesy:

Viktor
14-06-2005, 11:44 AM
I prefer to do them with mutted / played harmonics on the 12th fret, 2 on G, 1 on D, 1 on A and a slide on E... that's another way, surely easier... :cheesy:
It sound harder to me...How do you mute a harmonic? :?:

Drunken funkster
14-06-2005, 12:44 PM
I think what Leo is describing is basically called a rake, where you drag your finger across all four strings (muting at the 12th fret, drag from top to bottom, g, d, a, and slide down on the e, which can be fitted into the swung Virtual Insanity style line easily)...it is possible to mute harmonics (ish) but it means they don't sustain.

If you want to hear a good example of a rake, listen to the beginning of Manifest Destiny, where Stuart rakes down and slides on the E. Sounds fast, but it ain't too difficult. I don't think that is what Stuart did on Virtual Insanity was a rake...I think it may have been possible that he muted pop slap popped in quick sucession, and then an open fretted slap. No double thumbing or rakes anywhere I think.

Viktor
14-06-2005, 01:10 PM
If you want to hear a good example of a rake, listen to the beginning of Manifest Destiny, where Stuart rakes down and slides on the E. Sounds fast, but it ain't too difficult.

Yes I know that rake thingy....but if you do that on the 12th freet wouldn't you get natural harmonics?You know ping,ping,ping,ping...Like on the 7th,5th,...and somewhere around the 4th.................. :cheesy: and 9th...

Leo
14-06-2005, 03:34 PM
Yeah exactly Drunken ! But Stu slap and pop it on Virtual Insanity...
If you want to hear the result Viktor, just go int the bass lounge / Jamiroquai bass challenge topic and listen to my Virtual Insanity, I do it there... :cheesy:
Cheers

Viktor
14-06-2005, 05:32 PM
Yeah exactly Drunken ! But Stu slap and pop it on Virtual Insanity...
If you want to hear the result Viktor, just go int the bass lounge / Jamiroquai bass challenge topic and listen to my Virtual Insanity, I do it there... :cheesy:
Cheers
Mate there's nothing I would like to to beter but I have a realy slow connection...I would take me forever to listen to it. :cry:

Lex
15-06-2005, 04:30 AM
i tabbed this in a post somewhere else, here it is again:

http://www.alexissadler.com/temp/vi.gif

Cheers

Lex

Viktor
20-06-2005, 07:19 PM
I just played around with the bass...I kinda found (at least I think) the right mute notes.I just play A mute-->G mut-->D mute-->A mute (All aroung the 8th freet)...not slap...fingre style.It reely sound right.

JB
20-06-2005, 08:35 PM
Can one of you guys explain or tab out that fill in Manifest Destiny? I have always hit the G string on the 15th or 16th fret three times, muting the first two and sliding down the third note wtih my fingers. Sounds like I'm way off . . .

Drunken funkster
21-06-2005, 06:36 AM
You mean the intro fill? I'll tab it out later if you want, because every single tab I've seen so far on the net has been completely wrong...

If that's the rake you're trying to explain, you should be doing what Leo is doing in his Virtual Insanity fill and raking...kind of like this...

G|-x----------|
D|---x--------|
A|-----x------|
E|--------\---|

All you need to do is drag your finger down each one seperately so each one can be clearly heard, and slide on the last.

Leo
21-06-2005, 10:34 AM
Yeah exactly but I usually double the first muted note on the G string, xx x x \...

JB
21-06-2005, 08:07 PM
Thanks Liam/Leo! I was doing all the mutes on the G string which is why it doesn't sound the same. That was an easy fix! Cheers,

Josh

Ian
01-07-2005, 09:46 PM
I think what Leo is describing is basically called a rake, where you drag your finger across all four strings (muting at the 12th fret, drag from top to bottom, g, d, a, and slide down on the e, which can be fitted into the swung Virtual Insanity style line easily)...it is possible to mute harmonics (ish) but it means they don't sustain.

If you want to hear a good example of a rake, listen to the beginning of Manifest Destiny, where Stuart rakes down and slides on the E. Sounds fast, but it ain't too difficult. I don't think that is what Stuart did on Virtual Insanity was a rake...I think it may have been possible that he muted pop slap popped in quick sucession, and then an open fretted slap. No double thumbing or rakes anywhere I think.



I took me a while to figure out the technique in Manifest Destiny, but I can almost play it now!!!! this is not that hard, but the way you do it and the bass you're playing on are important !!!

squishington
01-07-2005, 11:13 PM
remember the first time i heard that rake in manifest destiny,before i knew anything about Stuartor who was the bassist in Jami...remember thinking to myself...what the hell was that??!!?

blew me away, had to go out and fins how the hell he did that!