spannerman - zender pre-jamiroquai

[marshall]

Hi,
found this interview with some guy on the internet which briefly mentions Stuart Zender and a band called Spannerman that he played in before Jamiroquai. Don't know if people already know this - sorry if I'm repeating old info. It's not very enlightening, but I thought I'd pass it on. They mispell his name "Zehnder". The band is listed as having one cassette recording called "Leave it Mandy". Here's the link...

http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue9/chousmr1.html

[Drunken funkster]

Hey Marshall, welcome to the site (I ain't been here long either). That's interesting news, I'd be interested in hearing some of his stuff before Jamiroquai to see what it was like!

Liam :cheesy:

[Simon]

Welcome to the board Marshall - this is actually news to all of us :shock:

Be interesting if we could actually get hold of the record :P

[marshall]

Thanks Liam, thanks Simon - I'd been checking the site for a while but hadn't gotten round to posting on the message board.
Yeah it would be interesting to get hold of a copy of the recording (assuming it is Stuart Zender playing on it). Maybe someone will track it down

[Rob]

Interesting, thanks Marshall!

Also, did anyone see this? >


Webcore - formed in Cornwall in 1984 and lasted until 1987. Released several self-released cassettes, 2 LP's and 2 12"s through Jungle Records.
Mick West - Vox
Phil Pickering - Bass
Paul Chousmer - Keys
Clive Goodwin - Guitar - later Ozrics sound engineer
Colin Woolway - Drums
Nick Van Gelder - Drums - had played with the Ozrics earlier-went on to Jamiroquai
Dan Carpenter - Sax occasionally
Mike ??? - left to join a monastery
Jackie Hannah - backing vox
Karen Kay - backing vox


Jason Kay's mum was in a band with first Jamiroquai drummer Nick van Gelder. How surprising is that? I wonder if David Rowe (for example) knew that! lol

[Simon]

Yeah, good spot Rob!

The other weird thing is that I have a teacher who is a keyboard player and his name is Paul Chousmer :shock: - How weird is that - I will have to ask him if he has heard of Spannerman :P

[woodchuck]

I have that on cassette. It's called "Leave it Mandy". It's raw, but it's still some pretty good bass playing. You can tell that Stu's just starting out, but he's clearly on his way. If Simon emails me his address, I'll mail him the tape. I suppose it's only a matter of time before some of you start asking, "Who is this guy, and how does he get all of this stuff?" :wink:

[Simon]

Great, thanks Woodchuck :cheesy:

i've emailed ya :wink:

[marshall]

Wow Woodchuck! - I am amazed anyone had a copy of that recording!

[Rob]

Who is this guy, and how does he get all of this stuff? :cheesy:

[Alfred Jazz Punker]

Damn... what was his age when he did those recordings?

I mean... he was like 18 when started with Jamiroquai isn't it?

[Simon]

Turns out that Paul Chousmer is one of my teachers 8) ....I asked him about the Spannerman project and we had a chat about it!

He said Stu played bass in the group when he was quite young - just 15/16. He used to come in and sit in on rehearsals and play on the drum kit, and eventually switched to bass.

Jackie Hannah, the backing singer of the group, is in fact Stu's sister and that is the link of him being in the band. Nick van Gelder played for these guys and the Ozric Tentacles also.

Paul cites, they would often get frustrated with Stu as he would never practice, and then once in rehearsal he would play all of the time! It got to the point where Paul was considering talking to him about it, when stu got a better job and left - Jamiroquai! :P

Fascinating stuff eh... Paul's a really nice guy and hope to chat to him more about it sometime!

[Ben]

thats unbelievable news si mate, awesome stuff,

and a funny story about our man z, its a heck of a jump to go from arsing around in spannerman to getting jamiroquai, just shows you how close knit the band already was, i wonder how further the zender roots go or if that was the foundations just imagine if he didnt go to those practice sessions and get himself involved, we certainly wouldnt be on here today talking about it,


awesome stuff,

Ben,

[Rob]

I wonder if it was really true that Stu just started playing bass 2 years before he went to Jamiroquai...not the most important thing though...

very cool story, I gotta say... It's a small world (there, in the UK! lol)

[Alfred Jazz Punker]

Yeah... I think I saw once in a magazine or something like that, an enterview with Zender, where he said that he didin't practiced that much...

[woodchuck]

Simon, you should have the CD by now. I hope so at least.

[Simon]

:cry: Still no luck yet mate! Maybe lost in the post at this rate!

[woodchuck]

I hope not! I sent you the ONLY copy! #-o

[Simon]

Oh No!!! :cry:

let's hope it turns up [-o<

[Tlum]

Anything new in this case?

[Simon]

Hey mate, yeh the CD did turn up and ive listened....

Did talk a bit about here:
http://www.stuartzender.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=185

Don't know why i didn't put it on this thread :?

There'll be loads of info on all the projects Stu has worked on in the new site design... coming soon!

[Tlum]

Did talk a bit about here:
http://www.stuartzender.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=185

:lol: :lol: :lol: I forgot I had read it! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Alfred Jazz Punker]

ha ha ha ha ha...

That happens...

Lol...

[Leo]

Yeah, I remember that too AJP :?

[Lupin]

you have some samples?

[riohondoeop]

can i get a copy to.

I have that on cassette. It's called "Leave it Mandy". It's raw, but it's still some pretty good bass playing. You can tell that Stu's just starting out, but he's clearly on his way. If Simon emails me his address, I'll mail him the tape. I suppose it's only a matter of time before some of you start asking, "Who is this guy, and how does he get all of this stuff?" :wi
nk:

[johannes]

hey simon, as you got the cassette by now, can you please put it on the site? i would LOOOOVE to hear it mate.


thankfully /johannes

[FunkEducation]

yeh i want it too :P :lol:

[Simon]

hey guys, i'm afraid i'm not permitted to share it. I know the keyboard player and he I promised him I wouldn't share it. Sorry!

[chili]

hey guys, i'm afraid i'm not permitted to share it. I know the keyboard player and he I promised him I wouldn't share it. Sorry!

dont worry Simon, we wont tell him that u gave us the cassette :D
oh ccccccmmmmmmmmoooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnn :o
please?

[chili]

seems like no after all :?
u r tough nut Simon
:D

[Black Napkin]

chili make him an offer he cant refuse :roll: :roll: :roll:

[chili]

hmmm..im not sure if there is such an offer he cant refuse :?

[chili]

...and dont u roll that pretty eyes of yours on me Chapkin :D

[dandysweets]

Hi,

I've got a copy of the tape too. There was an annual festival in Avignon (in 1991 I think) where a lot of the people who were in Archaos performed in other shows. Spannerman played as well and Stuart was part of the group and especially hung out with some mutual friends which is which is how I over a period of 2 weeks or so talked to him many times in Avignon (where the festival was), Ales (where Archaos has a camp-base) and in a place called La Grange where there was a big party where Spannerman played. I only saw him again once or twice after that and we're not friends or anything, but he was very nice as was everyone else in Spannerman. Some of the members also went on to form a band called Thunderdogs, where Stuart is thanked in the credits (I don't think he plays on the album though).

The Spannerman tape is not that great, though I thought it was at the time, maybe because I'd seen the songs performed in context. Maybe I can transfer one or two of the songs from tape to my computer and upload them but I don't know if I'm actually allowed to do so but if there's no protest from those who are in charge of this community I'll see what I can do.

[space clav]

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I hope it'd be ok to do it... the band doesn't exist anymore. The material was never officially released... the members went on etc etc. It shouldn't be a problem really. In fact, they may very well be honoured that someone actually cares about what they did such a long time ago. I dunno...

Let's see what the almighty Merrick says. ;)

[Simon]

Personally, 'I' made a promise to a member of the band that 'I' wouldn't share it. I don't have any objections providing that, if someone does ask it to be removed it will be. May also be more curtious to post samples instead of full tracks (60 secs or so), as permission hasn't been given to share?

[dandysweets]

Hi Simon,

alright, maybe it's best not to share it then.
Anyway, I don't come here everyday but I will look back on the forum occasionally and if I see at some point that it's alright for me to post some of the songs then I'll happily share.

[Simon]

im sure it'd be fine to post some samples for the curious. :wink:

[chili]

im sure it'd be fine to post some samples for the curious. :wink:

ffs Simon :twisted:
some newbie comes and he convices u to put it on and me begging u before was one big nothing :P
thanks :twisted:

[Simon]

hahaha chil's!

hey baby, i promised i wouldn't share, and im not gonna! you should be greateful someone else has come along and offered sweetheart! lol :D

[dandysweets]

Alright, since Simon has been told not to share the demo tape I won't either, however I also have a live recording from one of the Spannerman-performances from the festival in Avignon (early nineties) so I'll post brief samples from two of the songs to give an impression of what kind of music it was and Stuart's bass-playing at the time.

Clip 1

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JGCVDCZ7

Clip 2

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BUOS04N8

[kevin_lindsay]

Bloody awful!!!!!

The first track sounds like the theme tune to Benny Hill!!!

The second sounds like they are about to treat us to a rendition of "My Old Man's A Dustman"!!!!!

Benny Hill theme tune
http://download.yousendit.com/080C393A7A3C5C81

My Old Man's A Dustman
http://download.yousendit.com/5BF4984514AE17D1

[Simon]

Yes Kev!

I remember hearing the CD when i first got it. But i think its fair to say we have all played in a band that sound cack!

Not bad to go from Spannerman to Jamiroquai though?!

[chili]

sometimes i wish i wasnt that curious :mrgreen:

[Rob]

Well, now I understand why Simon's teacher didn't want this to leak out. LOL

[space clav]

Thanks for sharing. Oh, and thank God Stu went on to Jamiroquai.

I'm not going to throw stones in a glasshouse... but I will admit that this kind of music ain't my cuppa tea. ;)

[Messiah]

File's expired.

Anyone?

[bassgiant15]

Can anyone send these files again? :D

[Messiah]

Please?
I'm curious...

[Ian]

Please post !



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[Smithy]

Clip 1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8JA1G2XI

Clip 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R7JV0IEQ


8)

[Messiah]

FFS, can't download it.
I freaking hate Megaupload. Stupid pricks.

[bassgiant15]

Thanks for the clips!!!!!

They are different from what i thought they would be, but very cool.

[Messiah]

They are crap.
Spannerman sucks.


Thanks for sharing though. Worth a laugh.

[gotbass]

Alright Calm down Calm down!

I just found out my dads in a band (hes a bssist too and got me into Jamiroquai when i was about 3 and Zender when i was 10) with a drummer called alex who claims to of been in a band or played with Stu before Jamiroquai (cant remember which as i wasnt really paying attention at the time)

I cant wait to meet him and ask him a few questions. My dad said that Stu was a bit of a stoner tho as a teen, but theres no surprises there!

Ill tell you guys anything i find out i spose

J

[Messiah]

Hey J! Great! keep us informed about that!

The guys will like it (NHS).

[Miguel]

hey guys , i think im late for hear those gigs...

PLEASE PUT THEM BACK !!!!

PLEASE !!!!!! :(